“One tool that might be used against terrorism that is not in the new legislation is torture. While torture will probably never become a legal tool, there are some who are starting to think it might not be such a bad idea….Is torture effective? An option? Something we should think about?”

— Neal Conan, host of National Public Radio’s Talk of the Nation, October 30, leading into a calm pro-and-con discussion with a pair of inside-the-beltway attorneys.